Wilderness EMS vs Disaster EMS – Why Everyone Needs a Foley Catheter!

??????eIn response to a question from a listener, we decided to look at the field of wilderness EMS medicine, another austere medicine practice, to see what similarities or differences there are between the two. While they both operate within constraints of supplies and resources, their differences are striking. Hosts Jamie Davis, the Podmedic and Sam Bradley are joined by Dr. Joe Holley to dig in to this topic.

While looking into it, they got onto the topic of best supplies to carry when load and space is at a premium. Joe shocked both Sam and Jamie with the inclusion of a foley catheter in his list of things he can’t live without on deployment. He then began to list all the things it could be used for, including both medical and mundane uses. You have to listen to the whole episode to hear it all!

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4 Replies to “Wilderness EMS vs Disaster EMS – Why Everyone Needs a Foley Catheter!”

  1. slichtenberg

    All of the comments made by the panel are fantastic! I have been teaching wilderness medicine for many years and have moved to disaster as well. Clothing is another thing to use to improvise with. Wound dressing, sling/swath etc can all be improvised with shirts and pants etc.

    Basically anything can be improvised using the equipment most experienced campers take on a three day backpacking trip. Pack frames, sleeping pads, paracord etc. are all useful for emergencies in the wilderness.

    The one thing not often mentioned in disaster response is force health protection. I’m glad the panel mentioned keeping the responders safe. This includes sleep/rest cycles and food safety for both the responders and the victims.

    • jamie

      Thanks for the comment and ideas. Maybe as a wilderness and disaster instructor you’d like to come on the show and talk about how the two areas of care are similar and different? We’d love to have you on!

    • joe

      Thanks for the comment! You are right on target. You definitely can’t respond if you are a victim too. Its hard to get folks to appreciate this important point.

  2. Sam Bradley


    Thanks for your thoughts. You’ve given me some more ideas in terms of managing food, food safety, what not to take, immunizations etc. Good stuff!

    Keep listening!


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